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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:11 am    Post subject: Internal\external browser support impovement requests Reply with quote


  1. It would be good if it was possible to open a bookmark in a new internal browser tab as default (now we need to create a new tab first if we don't want currently viewed bookmark to disappear from screen). I thought that it is what Open new tabs in background option for but changing its status has no effect.
  2. It would be good if it was possible to open an internal browser link in external browser using only mouse (appropriate right-click menu item would be the best choice). By the way there's an error in user interface: the Shift-click-related option called Shift+Click opens links in default browser (instead of Internet Explorer) which isn't correct while in Help it is called right — Shift+Click opens links in default browser (instead of a Browser-Tab).

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would be good if it was possible to open a bookmark in a new internal browser tab as default (now we need to create a new tab first if we don't want currently viewed bookmark to disappear from screen).


is planned in a higher version.

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I thought that it is what Open new tabs in background option for but changing its status has no effect.


this option is currently only used for links from opened pages.

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It would be good if it was possible to open an internal browser link in external browser using only mouse (appropriate right-click menu item would be the best choice). By the way there's an error in user interface: the Shift-click-related option called Shift+Click opens links in default browser (instead of Internet Explorer) which isn't correct while in Help it is called right - Shift+Click opens links in default browser (instead of a Browser-Tab).


this is a very old option that was used before tabbed browsing was implemented in will probably be removed in one of the next versions since it makes no longer really sense. Either that or the text will be changed Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would be good if it was possible to open an internal browser link in external browser using only mouse (appropriate right-click menu item would be the best choice). By the way there's an error in user interface: the Shift-click-related option called Shift+Click opens links in default browser (instead of Internet Explorer) which isn't correct while in Help it is called right - Shift+Click opens links in default browser (instead of a Browser-Tab).


this is a very old option that was used before tabbed browsing was implemented in will probably be removed in one of the next versions since it makes no longer really sense. Either that or the text will be changed Wink

Do you mean the possibility to open links in external browser could be gone at all? Sad Internal browser is OK but sometimes native IE is more appropriate.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you mean the possibility to open links in external browser could be gone at all? Internal browser is OK but sometimes native IE is more appropriate.


I don't want to remove that feature, only that option Smile

My current ideas are:

Shift+Click - Open in new tab
Shift+Ctrl+Click - Open in new tab (in foreground if open-in-background is enabled and vice versa)
Shift+Alt+Click - Open link in external browser
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great! Hopefully all of them will have mouse-only equivalents?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My current ideas are:
Shift+Click - Open in new tab Shift+Ctrl+Click - Open in new tab (in foreground if open-in-background is enabled and vice versa) Shift+Alt+Click - Open link in external browser

OK, looking forward to this being implemented. The text "Shift+Click opens links in default browser (instead of Internet Explorer)" is rather confusing as it actually opens in internal tabs and not IE.

Actually tabbed browsing in the internal browser is good, but when opening a certain number of tabs, it is not very convenient to navivate through tabs clicking on the arrows. How about implementing 2 rows of tabs or more?

I made a simulation screenshot to show this, but I do not know how to post this image on the forum. If you want I can email it to you.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually tabbed browsing in the internal browser is good, but when opening a certain number of tabs, it is not very convenient to navivate through tabs clicking on the arrows. How about implementing 2 rows of tabs or more?


The next version will autosize the tab widths and display all tabs in a single row, the arrows won't appear anymore.

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I made a simulation screenshot to show this, but I do not know how to post this image on the forum. If you want I can email it to you.


yes, you can send the screenshots by email.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The next version will autosize the tab widths and display all tabs in a single row, the arrows won't appear anymore.

OK, I see what you mean. Actually, it is similar to what happens under the Opera web browser. This is indeed better than the current WSW solution with the arrows, so it is an improvement indeed.

However, one drawback of this method is that over a certain number of tabs, it becomes impossible to see what's in a tab anymore. My proposal with 2 rows enables to show more tabs while keeping on the screen the contents of the tabs.

I propose you to implement the following:

- design the method you present with the single row / tab autosize

- in a second step, implement the method with the two rows, and make this method selectable through global settings.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, one drawback of this method is that over a certain number of tabs, it becomes impossible to see what's in a tab anymore. My proposal with 2 rows enables to show more tabs while keeping on the screen the contents of the tabs.


yes, the size of many opened tabs in a single row can be a disadvantage, but I personally prefer it against multiple lines (which I personally dislike).


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I propose you to implement the following:
- design the method you present with the single row / tab autosize
- in a second step, implement the method with the two rows, and make this method selectable through global settings.


that is possible.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have an other question on the internal browser tabs.

Is it possible that WSW reopens the tabs from the last session when re-opening?

I am not sure what WSW is actually doing. I remember instances where I could find back my previously visited tabs when re-opening WSW, and other cases where all my tabs were gone.

One additional convenient feature is the trash can, where you can re-open previously closed tabs in the same session (works a bit like the windows recycle bin). Opera 9.0 has such a feature and it is quite nice.


Obviously, you can not match all features of all web browsers. How about making WSW work directly from thrid party web browsers? I mean adding WSW specific features such as "Open next unread bookmark" or "Goto next change" direcly to the most common browsers through contextual menus or additional buttons?

In this case, I would not need to open the internal browser to go through WSW results, I would do it directly from my favorite browser.

And I would stop bothering you with new feature requests for the internal browser and stop taking some of you development bandwidth on this issue. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is it possible that WSW reopens the tabs from the last session when re-opening?

I am not sure what WSW is actually doing. I remember instances where I could find back my previously visited tabs when re-opening WSW, and other cases where all my tabs were gone.


Currently WSW re-opens unread tabs automatically, this is optional and can be turned off in the program settings. Tabs which are already read (selected, the icon changes from the green box to a small document icon) are not automatically reopened.

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One additional convenient feature is the trash can, where you can re-open previously closed tabs in the same session (works a bit like the windows recycle bin). Opera 9.0 has such a feature and it is quite nice.


It's planned to implement a group feature that can for example be found in NetCaptor or Maxthon. Then you can save the currently opened URLs and reopen them later.

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Obviously, you can not match all features of all web browsers. How about making WSW work directly from thrid party web browsers? I mean adding WSW specific features such as "Open next unread bookmark" or "Goto next change" direcly to the most common browsers through contextual menus or additional buttons?


Such a feature is not planned.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank-you, I understand well now how WSW re-opens previously opened tabs. It is a good idea to show only un-read tabs.

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How about making WSW work directly from thrid party web browsers?

Such a feature is not planned.

Too bad. Sad I will probably have further suggestions on how to improve the internal browser in the future.

Basically, if you try Opera beta (version 9.0), any feature that you can find there, I would be happy to see in the internal browser.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regardless of what tab is currently active, double clicking on a bookmark will open it on the first tab. In other words, if we got a lot of changed bookmarks and want to explore them we should not click any link on the first tab without holding Shift - or we will not be able to open next changed bookmark until we read the page of that link. It's uncomfortably. I see three possible solutions:
  1. Always open a bookmark on a new tab (best choice I think).
  2. Open a bookmark on active tab, not on first tab.
  3. Open any link located on first tab on a new tab.

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